[Gelistirici] contrib svn 'si altındaki pisidepo ve 3rd_Party hakkında

Rajeev J Sebastian rajeev.sebastian at gmail.com
30 Kas 2006 Per 20:54:14 EET


Hello all,

Actually, it is quite wierd that noone in core team has responded to
this email with any comments. I hope you will take some time out to
give some comments on this issue.

Regards,
Rajeev J Sebastian

On 11/30/06, Murat Şenel <muratasenel at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
> We had a discussion in #pisidepo on the proposal to merge pisidepo with
> 3rd_party repo. We arrived at the conclusion that this is not needed. Our
> reasons are outlined below.
>
> The current situation is that pisidepo is considered as a repository of
> unsupported/experimental packages. 3rd Party packages are also similiar to
> it. Hence the proposal is partly well founded. However, we would like to
> stress one factor: pisidepo is not just an svn repository.
>
> We in #pisidepo consider ourselves as an independent community of 3rd party
> developers of Pardus. By community, we mean a team. The packages we create
> are, of course, unsupported by the core Pardus team. However, they are
> supported by us.
>
> We feel that members of the core Pardus devel team consider the base platform
> and make it the best possible. This is the reason we use this well-made OS.
>
> Members of the pisidepo team create unsupported packages as part of an
> external volunteer community. Members of pisidepo team, may also be granted
> commit privileges at the discretion of Pardus devels. This does not remove
> their status as pisidepo members. This is because, there may be several
> reasons why a 3rd party developer does not want to be identified directly
> with the Pardus devel team.
>
> We wish to stress at this point that both Pardus devels and Pisidepo have the
> great common goal "to develop Pardus as the best GNU/Linux experience both
> for beginners and experienced users". Our roles differ in that Pardus devels
> form the core, and Pisidepo forms the (organized) community around it.
> 3rd-party is for 3rd party individuals who do not wish extended involvement
> in Pardus development either in core or community.
>
> Since our Pardus community is built around the code, this also seems a good
> structure for the svn repos.
>
>
> So our view of the svn repo is like this:
>
>     * devel/ is the repo produced by core Pardus devels: supported fully by
> the Pardus team, with specific stability requirements.
>
>     * 3rd-party/ is the repo produced by individual 3rd party developers,
> usually experimental packages to be used at the discretion of the Pardus
> devels (perhaps move to playground/ to devel/ ? )
>
>     * pisidepo/ is the repo produced by the pisidepo team: we support it based
> on our constraints as a volunteer group.
>
>
> Of course, any packages that Pardus devels need from pisidepo/ (or 3rd party)
> may be used.
>
> It is in the best interest of Pardus OS that packages once done shouldn't be
> done again; this is busy work. It would be better to institute a system for
> listing wanted/requested packages and assigning it to specific users in the
> wide Pardus community (including core devels, pisidepo, or any other 3rd
> party who can access the system).
>
> [Note: One pisidepo project is to make software that can automate this, so
> that such instances of double work can be avoided in future by accurate
> communication and reporting.]
>
> We also request the following:
>
>     * Generate seperate indexes for the repos under contrib/. We can surely
> build any needed packages by emerging it.
>     * Provide a direct link to contrib/ repos on http://svn.pardus.org.tr
>
>
> These directly follow from the discussion above regarding pisidepo.
>
> We hope that Pardus developers, community members and interested users who are
> on this list will provide constructive criticism on this issue, all for
> making the best GNU/Linux experience out there!
>
> [Note: We send this e-mail in English since we have a non-Turkish speaker
> member.]
>
> On behalf of the Pisidepo team,
> Murat Şenel
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