Subject: Re: [LINUX:7716] Re: [linux.org.tr] (fwd)
From: Andreas Mueller (amu@bimel.com.tr)
Date: Wed 21 Jul 1999 - 18:03:36 EET DST
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Murat Arslan wrote:
slm teo
> First of all, why do we need a MC ? Is it necessary as hell ?
sure your right, you`r totaly right.
> Other titles have been discussed also. The one that made some of us
> anxious is, the money. The money, that will be gained from some
> materials, such as selling CDs, whatever.linux.org.tr e-mail aliases,
> etc. Yes, we will earn money. And we MUST, to make Linux Org/Turkey
But legaly, try to sell T-Shits, Underwear whatever :)
> live. A part-time webmaster will be hired to update website very
> often. Who, and how also, will do this ?
.. for free
> "Hey, take this money (80-100M TL) and make www.linux.org.tr up-to-date".
of course with this 100TL your going to rich :)
If you thing excatly, if this 20 Guys from this "MC" group to much
interessed, they pay from their poket, or find an Sponsor, if the thing is
only 100M TL to pay an webmaster, you said you cant find, i`ll give you an
Contact email, write to this guy, he make pages for FREE. If you can find,
or I cannot find somebody I`ll pay this 100M TL. But without any offical
Announcements to decide to get upon 1.9 5M TL for an email alias
it`s poor and against Linux and the people which work with Linux.
The second thing is, to check if it`s allowed ( by law ) to collect money
from people using at bilkent`s, government lines.
The hole thread looks so unprofessionel, just 10 Years old girls
works like this, i cannot understand, Gorkem/Burak know my
Phonenumber they know also my e-mail, i stay at Ankara, theres
something wrong if i`m also invited ? Or i`m just good for the
international contacts ?
There are many other possilities, we spoke with Richard Stallman
he`s also ready to give your fresh Ideas to be successfull.
Also Debian international, Team Debian-Tuerkiye, Linux Germany
Linux Swisserland .... i have many Contacts i spoke with many
people last 2 Days, and all of them are able to help "you" ,
but you must try and "open" for any kind of help, it`s hard work.
For me this looks like your a group of "masters" and you dictaded
the people from now on, to pay moeny for xxx, and his is not only
what i think, other pleople outsite turkiye look _excatly_ what`s
up with linux.tuerkiye.
P.S. RedHat http://www.redhat.com is looking for serval peoples,
at Redhat i`ve no contacts, but ask them, they`ll give
your information/conditions.
Teo as an friend, we know each other from irc, why you think i left
Turkish-irc ? The behavier there was like children, i thought i`m
at an serious channel, nowadays i spend my enery into Debian,
comming soon theres an first beta, also Webpages coming soon,
give the People information about Linux, support them for free
and Linux grows up, for me is very hard to find people witch works for
free, i`m foreigner and nobody knows me ( at tuerkiye ).
I think change you organisation, "your" looks so sellfished for
other linux users and all is going to be ok.
> Who of us is rich, and generous also, enough to give this amount
> of money in one hand out of his pocket ? If your answer is,
> "If we collect, say 1M per head, every month; it would be ok",
> then my question is "Why couldn't we do that until now, and who will
> force us to give that amount of money, and how will you do that
> so systematically ?".
>
> On the other hand, if we will be able to find a sponsor to give us
> a one BIG breathe, there's no need to sell some materials for
> some time, until we need another big one.
> In brief, regardless of the source of the money, we NEED it.
again ?
you need money for what ? for an webmaster, no ?
just announce it at www.linux.org.tr your looking for some
guys ... and your`ll find them.
If you ask at this phorum i`m sure you find minimum 1 Person if you cant
i`ll find for you somebody. try it !
> The bottom line is that, The Linux Organisation/Turkey was before,
> is now, and will be FREE in the future. Now is the time to write
> codes, to attend to conferences (now systematically), to give
> briefings, and to stand up.
:) hopefully with many personal enery.
This are last offical centences about this Topic, folloup the threat at
slashdot, i must work _for_ linux, now. You know my e-mail if you feel
you must say thing, i`ll answer you.
andreas
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