[linux-masaustu] [com] OpenOffice.org Newsletter - August 2003 (fwd)

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From: Görkem Çetin (gorkem@gelecek.com.tr)
Date: Mon 11 Aug 2003 - 11:03:44 EEST

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    Görkem

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    Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:36:55 -0700
    From: Erwin Tenhumberg <erwin.tenhumberg@Sun.COM>
    Reply-To: com@native-lang.openoffice.org
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    Subject: [com] OpenOffice.org Newsletter - August 2003

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                            OPENOFFICE.ORG NEWSLETTER

                        Volume 01 - Issue 2 - 08/2003
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    Announcements
    =============

    OpenOffice.org 1.1 RC (July 14, 2003)

    http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=750723&listName=announce
    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/1025908.htm
    http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-1025908.html

    OpenGroupware.org: SKYRiX OPEN SOURCES ITS GROUPWARE SERVER

    http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=746582&listName=announce
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1190359,00.asp
    http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/systems/0,39001153,39140727,00.htm
    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/1024994.htm
    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=44496
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/11/1057783326188.html

    OpenOffice.org Statistics
    =========================

    * more that 17,500,000 have downloaded OpenOffice.org
       so far (as of July 19, 2003)

    * the OpenOffice.org projects has more than 12,700
       unique people subscribed to the mailing lists
       (as of July 19, 2003)

    * 267 people and companies have signed a JCA and are thus
       either already contributing or considering to do so
       (as of July 31, 2003)

    * 896 people have participated in the OOo developer
       survey so far (as of July 31, 2003), 16% indicated
       that they work for an independent software vendor,
       8% are employed at a systems integrator, 9% work for
       companies with 100 to 999 employees and another 9%
       work for companies bigger than 1000 employees.

    * From a total of 208373 users who filled out the
       English OpenOffice.org user survey

       - 42.45% (88469) use ONLY Windows
         (one or more Windows versions)

       - 11.46% (23890) use ONLY Linux
         (one or more Linux versions)

       - 35.5% (71906) use combinations of Windows and Linux
         but no other OS

    * OpenOffice.org user survey responses by country
       (The survey only covers OOo users. Thus, it does not
       represent the actual market share of the OOo suite!)

        Location Responses Responses Responses
                                    in Percent per 1M
                                                  Residents
        ---------------------------------------------------

        USA 40428 18.02% 148
        Germany 23772 10.60% 290
        France 9662 4.31% 164
        UK 8785 3.92% 149
        Italy 7423 3.31% 130
        Brazil 6895 3.07% 40
        Canada 6024 2.69% 194
        Poland 5498 2.45% 141
        Netherlands 4917 2.19% 307
        Spain 4809 2.14% 123
        Japan 4601 2.05% 37
        Australia 3575 1.59% 188
        Switzerland 2672 1.19% 382
        Belgium 2396 1.07% 240
        Finland 2360 1.05% 472
        China 2107 0.94% 2
        Denmark 2103 0.94% 421
        Czech Rep. 1936 0.86% 194
        Sweden 1863 0.83% 207

        Other 82494 36.78% N/A
        ---------------------------------------------------
        Total 224320 100.00% N/A

    More statistical data at:

    * http://stats.openoffice.org/
    * http://oosurvey.gratismania.ro/results/index.php
    * http://oosurvey.gratismania.ro/developer/results.php
    * http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html

    Awards and Reviews
    ==================

    Linux Journal Editors' Choice Awards 2003
    -----------------------------------------
    Best Desktop Software: OpenOffice.org

    http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6995

    LinuxWorld San Francisco Product Excellence Awards
    --------------------------------------------------
    OpenOffice.org and StarOffice were finalists in different
    categories, but unfortunately did not win in any of the
    following categories:

        BEST Productivity Application
        StarOffice

        BEST Open Source Project
        OpenOffice.org

        BEST Development Tool
        OpenOffice.org SDK

        BEST Front office Solution
        StarOffice

    OpenOffice.org 1.1 RC2 Review
    -----------------------------
    "... It's hard not to feel a little smug. We're
    looking at a crisp, colorful Adobe Acrobat PDF
    document, created from one of the PowerPoint
    templates on the Microsoft Office Template Gallery
    site. But we didn't use the $399 Office to open
    and edit the template, nor to create the PDF
    (despite PDF's popularity, neither today's Office
    XP nor tomorrow's Office 2003 can save or export
    Acrobat files). We used the latest release of the
    Microsoft-file-compatible, cross-platform,
    open-source OpenOffice.org suite. We paid $0. ..."

    http://www.winplanet.com/winplanet/reviews/4940/1/

    Kent Callison's Technology Review: Open Office v1.0
    ---------------------------------------------------
    "... Believe it or not, if you are tired of trying to
    keep up with Microsoft's version upgrades you finally
    have a real option. Open Office reads, writes and edits
    all MS Office formats. It sports a familiar, albeit
    boring, interface that most users will take to quickly.
    Best of all, the software is free. If you are a small
    business owner struggling to choke down the price of
    Microsoft software, you will adore Open Office. ..."

    http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_39201.asp

    Is Microsoft's hegemony over?
    -----------------------------
    "... Aside from being a free download, I think what I
    like most about OpenOffice is the fact that it has given
    me the freedom of choice. ...

    But now, I have a very good alternative and one that I
    believe will end up being my default and only office
    productivity suite for a long time to come until the
    wonderful guys from OpenOffice.org unveil the Aqua
    version of OpenOffice sometime in the second half of
    next year.

    With OpenOffice as my default office productivity suite,
    I have also started to discover many other open-source
    software to complement, ..."

    http://computerworld.com.my/pcwmy.nsf/unidlookup/36FD4A2DDB7EFE9448256D7B00137FD1?OpenDocument

    Success Stories
    ===============

    France
    ======

    The article below begins by explaining another dent to
    MS armour as the Japanese govt is looking at putting
    Linux in its autorities which have up to 800K civil
    servants working for it. This follows the news that
    Munich has moved to a Linux solution despite Steve
    Ballmer's attempts to try and convince them otherwise.

    Linux and open source projects appear to be having a
    phenomenal success around the world particularly in the
    public sector and government bodies despite its
    reliance on individual contributors to maintain their
    existence.. One of the pricincipal reasons for their
    success is the financial advantage to using 'free
    software' particularly in the current economix climate.

    In France the acceleration into the world of open
    software has seen a huge growth since 2000 - the minister
    of Culture migrated 400 of its servers to Linux followed
    by the Ministry of Finance.

    Despite MS's stranglehold on the marketplace , with 9 out
    of 10 PCs equipped with Windows and Office on the
    majority of these, examples such as Munich where
    14000 desktops have migrated to Linux show that the fear
    factor around free software has been dispersed. At the
    hospital of Avranches-Granville in Normandy, France,
    400 desktops have migrated to Openoffice, the free clone
    office suite to MS.

    http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=126087

    The 13 pages article below talks about Linux, an operating
    systems that works, meaning that it will become the first
    choice for lot of companies, shools and administrations in
    France. The article includes a lot of interviews from people
    who have moved to linux but also to OOo : a college where OOo
    was deployed on 400 desktop, Ataiire which is a private company
    and also the traveler company Nuances du Monde.

    http://www.vnunet.fr/pce/editpce/pcesom133.htm

    South Africa
    ============

    OpenOffice.org Translation

    The translation of OpenOffice.org into several languages in South Africa
    is being undertaken by translate.org.za. To this date this translation
    project has reached the following milestones:

           * Successfully translated OpenOffice.org 1.0.x into Zulu and
             almost completed the 1.1rc2 translation. (Packaging of the
             translations are still underway.)

           * Adapted scripts for PO (Portable Object) files and CSV (Comma
             Separated Values) files to allow for the easier translation of
             OpenOffice.org.

    In addition to this, translate.org.za are working on the development of
    a translation portal, which will allow anyone to help with the
    translation of OpenOffice.org, Mozilla and other Open Source projects.

    OpenOffice.org.za Portal

    The launch of the South African OpenOffice.org portal is being
    synchronised with the final release of OpenOffice.org 1.1. The aim of
    the portal is to provide local news and resources to existing and
    potential users, consultants and distributors in South and Southern
    Africa.

    South African Distribution Program

    The South African market has differing needs from that of many markets
    internationally. To this end, the South African marketing team has
    developed a localised distributor program. This program aims to
    encourage peer-to-peer distribution of OpenOffice.org through the
    maintenance of a public database of individuals, companies and
    organisations who are willing to assist with the distribution of
    OpenOffice.org on a commercial or non-profit basis. This database will
    soon be available of the OpenOffice.org.za portal.

    Sahara Computers Distributes OpenOffice.org

    Sahara Computers (www.sahara.co.za), the second largest distributor of
    PC's in South Africa, has begun to ship OpenOffice.org 1.0.x with all
    it's branded products. This landmark was facilitated by Chris Mostert of
    Replay (www.replay.co.za) who market software bundles to local white box
    manufacturers.

    India
    =====

    Open source software goes into schools
    --------------------------------------
    "... The curriculum is based on Linux Operating System
    and uses OpenOffice.org for teaching. ..."

    http://newstodaynet.com/31jul/ev1.htm

    Australia
    =========

    Vic Greens set to complete Linux switch by year-end
    ---------------------------------------------------
    "We hope to encourage our members to use Open Source software
    by informing them of the benefits through articles in our
    newsletter, by providing install disks for OpenOffice.Org for
    both the Mac and the PC as OpenOffice.Org is the office suit
    we have chosen to use in our office. We are hoping to hold an
    installfest later in the year with the support of the Linux
    Users of Victoria."

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/06/1060064230512.html

    USA
    ===

    Linux Access in State and Local Government, Part V
    --------------------------------------------------
    "... Jeff: We (the City of Newport News, Virginia) have
    developed ... And we are taking a serious look at Zope.
    We are trying to find an open-source project manager
    application for our development team. We are promoting
    the use of OpenOffice.org wherever possible to city
    employees.

    http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7008&mode=thread&order=0

    Wal-Mart to sell SuSE PCs
    -------------------------
    "... In addition to the OS-less, Lycoris, and Lindows PCs,
    Wal-Mart now offers SuSE PCs.
    ..
    The software included is the typical Linux line-up, including
    the OpenOffice.org suite, and a variety of Web browsers. ..."

    http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jul/gee20030716020836.htm
    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/1025780.htm
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1025780.html
    http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cb_headline.cgi?&story_file=bw.071503/231965075&directory=/google&header_file=header.htm&footer_file=

    Trinidad
    ========

    The Caribbean learns about Free and Open Software
    -------------------------------------------------
    "... "You mean this program is really free? We don't have to pay
    for it?" was a question I heard about OpenOffice.org from several
    ministry budget-watchers after they watched it in action. They
    were also impressed by the idea of software development tools
    that cost nothing; these have been budget-breakers for them many
    times when they decided to do inhouse development in a Windows
    environment. ..."

    http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/06/30/1416250&mode=thread&tid=19

    Market Information / Competition
    ================================

    Jupiter Research
    ----------------
    According to Jupiter Research OpenOffice.org is deployed
    at 6% of SMB with another 3% with plans to deploy it in
    their next fiscal year.

    Link: http://www.idg.net/ic_1326566_9698_1-5060.html

    Microsoft, Organization of American States Join to Boost
    E-Government in Latin America and Caribbean
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Q&A: The heads of the Inter-American Agency for Cooperation
    and Development and Microsoft Latin America discuss a new
    US$9 million agreement intended to bring e-government
    technology to Latin American and Caribbean citizens.

    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2003/jul03/07-30oas.asp

    Microsoft's Move To Open Source Code to Governments
    Seen as Linux Defense
    ---------------------------------------------------
    "... The Microsoft overture is a reaction to the fact that
    Linux is becoming a threat, Bill Claybrook, research director
    at Aberdeen Group, told NewsFactor. "Linux is not following
    Microsoft, MS is changing its tune to align itself with Linux,"
    he said. "Microsoft is feeling the pressure now." ..."

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nf/20030731/bs_nf/22007

    KSpread (KDE) will switch to the OpenOffice.org Calc format
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    "... During the LinuxTag 2003 conference, KOffice
    hackers Ariya, Norbert and Phillip had a chance to meet
    and discuss the current state of KSpread as well as the
    future direction of the project. Plans include an Excel
    export filter as well as switching to the OpenOffice.org
    Calc format -- read on for the full KSpread Development
    Roadmap that resulted from the discussions. ..."

    http://dot.kde.org/1059107636/

    Redmond's new point man on Linux
    --------------------------------
    Martin Taylor, Redmond's new point man on Linux, says he
    plans to change Microsoft's open-source competitive strategy
    by focusing on 'just the facts.'

    http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1207677,00.asp

    Microsoft to let Office users jump to Professional
    --------------------------------------------------
    Microsoft Corp. when it releases Office 2003 will give certain
    Office Standard Edition users the right to order Office
    Professional Edition applications at no extra cost and offer
    a "Step-up License" to upgrade to the full Office Professional
    suite, the company said.

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/04/HNofficejump_1.html

    PDF Format Shifting to XML
    --------------------------
    "... Meanwhile, Adobe isn't the only one working to
    integrate PDF and XML. The open source OpenOffice.org
    Project, which is developing an office productivity suite
    to compete with Microsoft's Office, has issued
    OpenOffice.org 1.1 Release Candidate 1, which signifies
    the 1.1 version of the suite is close to final release.
    As previously reported by internetnews.com, OpenOffice.org
    1.1 features the ability to export the suite's native XML
    documents as PDF. The RC1 version enhances both the suite's
    PDF export support and support for mailing a document as PDF.
    It also supports export to Macromedia Flash, DocBook, and
    PDA file formats. ..."

    http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/2235261

    Linux lagging in local desktops (Australia)
    -------------------------------------------
    "... PCs running Linux have been available to US consumers
    from Wal-Mart, and in New Zealand from Dick Smith, but low-end
    buyers in Australia are offered few open source options. ...
    Hewlett-Packard, which last week announced it would begin
    selling SME-targeted PCs with Mandrake Linux installed in the
    US, says it will not advertise the Linux option on that model
    here. ..."

    http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6715754%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html

    Oracle Taps Sun To Challenge Microsoft
    --------------------------------------
    "... Saying their combined assets can drive down the cost of
    deploying real-time collaboration software, Sun Microsystems
    (Nasdaq: SUNW) and Oracle (Nasdaq: ORCL) have announced
    plans to work together to spread the word about the benefits
    of their alternatives to Microsoft's (Nasdaq: MSFT) dominant
    Office suite. ..."

    http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/31200.html
    http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12803250

    Linux Desktops Not Good Enough For Information Work
    ----------------------------------------------------
    "... "We want to make sure customers and partners understand
    the value, not just the cost, of software," Raikes said. The
    deployment of StarOffice or OpenOffice would cost dramatically
    more than that of Office 2003, he said. ..."

    http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12803252

    Novell buys Ximian
    ------------------
    One major part of the deal is Ximian Desktop 2, a Linux desktop
    environment that has an integrated suite of Linux applications
    capable of supporting Windows file formats and networks.

    http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,83716,00.html

    RealNetworks and Helix Community to Build Open Source Media
    Player for Linux, Solaris and Unix
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    "As an important contributor to two of the world's largest
    open source projects, OpenOffice.org and GNOME, Sun is well
    aware of the momentum of the open source movement on the
    desktop," said Curtis Sasaki, vice president of Desktop
    Solutions, Sun Microsystems. "We are pleased to see a company
    with the skill and expertise of RealNetworks increase this
    momentum by driving the development of Helix Player as the
    leading open source media player for Linux and the
    Solaris(TM)Operating System."

    http://www.stockworld.de/msg/569972.html

    Sun Joins OSDL; Strengthens Commitment to the Open-Source
    Community And Driving Open Standards
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK3.story&STORY=/www/story/08-05-2003/0001995613&EDATE=TUE+Aug+05+2003,+12:00+PM

    Sun Declares Linux Desktop Ready for Primetime
    ----------------------------------------------
    At LinuxWorld, Sun is also previewing the next version of
    StarOffice, its award-winning productivity suite. StarOffice
    is a key component of the Project Mad Hatter desktop and is
    based on the open source code found at OpenOffice.org, a
    popular open source community founded by Sun in 2000.

    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK6.story&STORY=/www/story/08-05-2003/0001995805&EDATE=TUE+Aug+05+2003,+04:31+PM

    Activities (local and world wide)
    =================================

    OpenOffice.org [1.0.3.1] Ported to SGI IRIX
    -------------------------------------------
    http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3993

    4 new native-lang projects
    --------------------------
    Greek, Slovenian, Lao, and Vietnamese joined the fast
    growing number of native-language projects on OpenOffice.org.

    Project URL: http://native-lang.openoffice.org/

    Events
    ======

    OSCON 2003, Portland, USA
    -------------------------
    "... In addition to our presentations, OpenOffice.org also
    maintained a *very* active booth in the Sun pod, which was
    prominently placed. Thanks to Phillip "Flip" Russell, we
    had hundreds of CDROMs to distribute. I went through all
    of them. ..."

    http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=752227&listName=announce

    LinuxTag 2003, Karlsruhe, Germany
    ---------------------------------
    LinuxTag lasted 4 days and attracted approximately 20,000
    visitors. The members from the German OOo community answered
    questions about the spellchecker, database integration,
    migration topics like macros, available books and literature,
    API programming and porting.

    Several vendors showed OpenOffice.org solutions. tarent GmbH
    demo'd tarent Contact und tarent Finder, which offer a complete
    address management leveraging OpenOffice.org. A German publisher
    (Handel und Technik Verlag) presented „eDOKument – inter@ktiv“.
    This solution allows to generate electronic books from
    OpenOffice.org documents. Wyona.org showed how to do content
    management using OpenOffice.org and Apache Cocoon. YellowTab
    wants to bring OpenOffice.org to the BeOS platform and has
    already started the porting efforts.

    URL of German report:
    http://de.openoffice.org/veranstaltungen/linuxtag_2003.html

    LinuxWorld, San Francisco, USA
    ------------------------------
    This year's LinuxWorld Expo in San Francisco seemed to be
    less busy than last year. Especially there seemed to be less
    geeks (and less ponytails) and more "guys in ties". Thus,
    LWE SF was a bit boring compared to other shows in the past.
    However, we had some good conversations with end users,
    IT managers, software vendors, hardware vendors and the media.

    Whil Hentzen, Ryan Singer, Josh Berkus, Christian Einfeldt,
    Louis Suarez-Potts, Edward Buck and Paul Miller volunteered
    at the OpenOffice.org pod on the Sun booth at LinuxWorld.
    In total we gave out 3,500 OpenOffice.org CD's. Most of them
    (about 3,400) were already gone on the very first day.

    The following picture shows three of our "booth babes" (Whil,
    Josh and Ryan):

    http://www.openoffice.org/project/www/issues/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=8293

    Discovered OpenOffice.org Solutions
    ===================================

    OpenSHORE
    ---------
    OpenSHORE is a XML based hypertext repository with a
    free definable meta model that stores data about and
    described by documents. The acronym SHORE means
    Semantic Hypertext Object Repository.

    The OpenSHORE OpenOffice Export Filter provides
    installable filters to transform OpenOffice documents
    to OpenSHORE documents which can be directly imported
    into a OpenSHORE server instance. Filters are provided
    as OpenOffice filter packages. Every user can install
    these packages very easily via a OpenOffice dialog
    without any further configuration.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/openshore/

    New OpenOffice.org To-Do's
    ==========================

    GLOW Groupware Client
    ---------------------
    http://groupware.openoffice.org/glow/dev/opentasks.html

    Other To-Do's
    -------------
    http://website.openoffice.org/developer/todo.html

    All to-do's are marked as a TASK with the keyword
    "needhelp".

    In order to get new to-do's added please contact
    Erwin Tenhumberg (erwin.tenhumberg@sun.com)!

    New Resources
    =============

    German Usability Study: Linux/KDE/OOo vs. Win XP
    ------------------------------------------------
    The German company Relevantive AG (Berlin) did a usability study
    with 80 people who all were unfamiliar with Linux/KDE and
    Windows XP. These people had to do different tasks like writing
    a small text document, creating an email, moving files, burning
    a CD, etc.

    On Windows XP the test candidates needed more than 41 minutes
    on average whereas the tests on Linux took a bit less than
    45 minutes.

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/04/HNusabilitystudy_1.html
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5060709.html
    http://www.linux-usability.de/download/linux_usability_report.pdf

    Making a pitch for OpenOffice
    -----------------------------
    By Solveig Haugland

    "... As an OpenOffice.org and StarOffice instructor
    and consultant, I've heard all the objections that
    fearful Office users can muster. Here are five
    objections that you're bound to hear when you suggest
    switching and some ways to explain why those objections
    are spineless. ..."

    http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci915065,00.html?Exclusive=True

    Desktop Linux Report
    --------------------
    "... The KDE and GNOME desktops have reached a level of
    maturity where they offer an acceptable enduser experience.
    The availability of strong cross-platform application suites,
    including the Mozilla/Netscape browser suite and the
    OpenOffice/StarOffice office suite, complemented with other
    core productivity applications ..."

    http://www.osafoundation.org/desktop-linux-overview.pdf

    OpenSector.org
    --------------
    "Welcome to OpenSector.org, where public sector decision
    makers meet the people, projects and principles of the
    open source software (OSS) movement to bring the benefits
    of free software to their constituents and where OSS
    developers and organizations can find opportunities and
    advocate for adoption of free software. ..."

    http://opensector.org/

    German Department of the Interiors releases Migration Guide
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    The German Department of the Interior released a software
    migration guide that is supposed to help companies and
    govnernment authorities to migrate from old Microsoft
    platforms to newer ones or from Windows to Linux.
    The documents mentions OpenOffice.org and StarOffice
    quite a few times!

    German PDF file: http://download.bund.de/mlf_v1_de.pdf

    StarOffice 6.0 Software Basic Programmer's Guide
    ------------------------------------------------
    The StarOffice 6.0 Software Basic Programmer's Guide
    provides an introduction to programming with
    StarOffice 6.0 Basic and indicates the possible
    applications provided by using StarOffice Basic in
    StarOffice. To get the most out of this book, you should
    be familiar with other programming languages. Extensive
    examples are provided to help you quickly develop your
    own StarOffice Basic programs.

    http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/817-1826-10

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